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“After having done this my entire career, this is a legacy project for me. A time will come when I'm not available to keep doing this for people. It warms my heart that while we've been talking, I've helped more people than I used to in months of person-to-person clinical activity. And I want people to have it as a resource for helping themselves to feel better and function better, and I think it can.”
— Dr. David Spiegel on the Tim Ferriss Show
Episode Highlights
In the latest episode of the Tim Ferriss Show, the prolific podcast host and Dr. David Spiegel dive deep into the cutting edge of research on hypnosis.
- Watch Dr. Spiegel hypnotize Tim Ferriss and reduce his back pain by 50%.
- Learn how hypnosis can help people heal from trauma, and how hypnosis compares to EMDR therapy, meditation, psychedelic therapy, and cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT).
- Discover what your eyes say about your hypnotizability, and how accurate the eye-roll test in the Reveri app is.
Show Notes
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[00:33] How Herbert Spiegel was exposed to hypnosis.
[03:56] Using hypnosis to cure non-epileptic seizures.
[05:40] What is a forensic psychiatrist?
[08:33] How hypnosis works.
[11:51] Hypnosis and the flow state.
[15:09] How hypnosis differs from meditation.
[16:53] Determining one’s susceptibility to hypnosis.
[21:51] I take the eye-roll test.
[24:12] Thoughts on EMDR.
[30:20] Therapeutic psychedelics and ego dissolution.
[35:16] Potential adverse effects of hypnosis?
[36:55] Accelerated TMS improves response to hypnosis.
[38:49] Hypnosis as a tool for stress and pain relief.
[43:36] David treats my back pain with hypnosis.
[52:21] Replicating this effect with self-hypnosis.
[53:14] Understanding the science of pain relief.
[58:48] Filtering the hurt from the pain.
[1:02:12] For us, not against us.
[1:04:57] Hypnosis vs. other addiction interventions.
[1:07:33] A mesmerizing tale of hypnotic history.
[1:12:14] Most surprising patient outcomes.
[1:21:28] Finding connection to treat the agitated.
[1:25:31] Who is Reveri designed for?
[1:28:16] Hypnosis as a first rather than last resort.
[1:31:24] Further resources and final thoughts.
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David Spiegel, M.D.
Stanford Associate Chair of Psychiatry and Reveri Founder
Dr. David Spiegel is Willson Professor and Associate Chair of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences, Director of the Center on Stress and Health, and Medical Director of the Center for Integrative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, where he has been a member of the academic faculty since 1975.
He is the founder of Reveri, the world's first interactive self-hypnosis app.
Dr. Spiegel has more than 45 years of clinical and research experience, has published thirteen books, 404 scientific journal articles and his work has been supported by the National Institute of Mental Health, the National Cancer Institute and more.
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